From what I have read in the forum,
email 12x12 meeting, as well as chat I have seen many people providing
compassionate guidance to find recovery in our literature and ESH.
There's the usual question about
"what message are we really carrying?" but in the forums there's
been a strong emphasis on Steps and a spiritual solution to a clearly
defined alcoholic (rather than alcohol) problem. I've noticed the NB email
meeting can seem a little less strong in this regard, both in terms of
defining the problem and outlining the solution.
On womens and the forums, I feel
there is focus on caring and the steps.
I will also add that many times there are some that think they are
"better" and have confronted someone on the group and not
personally. I had considered leaving womens many times due to this.
think that even those that HEAD the group CAN BE WRONG and need to be more
careful and pointing fingers in public.
Newbeginning does not relate as much as I feel it is more of a sociable
While the New Beginnings is somewhat
informal, I think we are still carrying the message for the newcomers. I
think e-aa in general is carrying the message.
on this point. New
Beginnings is pretty informal, but does seem to focus on recovery. There
is just more fellowship on there, which is always a plus for recovery IMO.
As far as the Forums go, I think we are doing as well as can be expected.
Everyone seems to focus on recovery without the program (steps/traditions)
being too watered down. I know that I can always find something to read
and relate to when I come here that will help me in my recovery and I hope
that others would feel the same.
Yes, I think we do a good job.
I have discovered recently that
online AA is becoming the newest outreach for alcoholics that can't handle
the idea of going to a rehab or going right to a meeting.
Rehab's are so prevalent as the first choice in recovery anymore that
twelve step lists and calls to Intergroup are being overlooked as a form
of Twelfth step calls. I believe online AA is the next and most profound
form of twelfth step work. I am particularly proud to be a member of the
e-aa group. I have tried other groups, not for long but have found them to
be disorganized and wholly unstructured. I think we are doing a great job
of reaching out to new alcoholics.
Yes, I believe we are.
This forum is a little different
than an AA group. However, in its own way it carries the message in a
strong way. Many answers of questions are given here, but there still
should be an emphasis on the old fashioned homegroup, and sponsorship. I
have read where people are logging on here and not wanting sponsorship,
and in some ways, the responses are negative toward sponsorship. There is
nothing that can replace true sponsorship, and the homegroup. The
fellowship can in no way be brought to this forum, because it is too
informal. But, the message is carried in another way, and in effect, its
think we are fulfilling this
I will speak only to that which I
know either directly or through feedback on the members list.
Let's see. I am not a regular in the chat room, but I have gotten the
impression that the chat room has been and continues to be a place where
newcomers are welcome.
I think that the forums also server the newcomers well, or at least have
the potential to. I am an infrequent user of the forums, but have noted
posts from newcomers along with responses when I have been on the forums.
I can only speak to the 12and12 e-mail list where I believe we have some
I believe we are carrying the
message of AA , along with Traditions, straight throughout e AA, into each
of the different formats within e AA
I was introduced to e-AA via the
Chatroom which I sadly don't get to frequent much anymore. Great outreach
is being done there.
I think each of us are different and finding the correct group with the
right balance of people and personalities is important. Here on e-AA there
appears to be something for everyone.
Just like in f2f groups, the basics appear to be here in each different
format, but the "carrying on's" are different. AND THIS IS GOOD.
I was taught that there was no "right" way for everyone. Some
need structure and a taskmaster, some need freedom to find what works for
them along with the basic guidelines supplied to us, and some need a
combination of the two.
It does hurt my heart to see mean spirited comments being made when we are
in discussion, and a lack of patience tolerance and understanding amongst
our fellows. I know that this is done out of a genuine concern for the well-being
of ALL OF US, but we sure don't practice what we preach
sometimes. And I am as guilty of that as others and will take my part.
After quite the ramble, I think we are doing an excellent job in spreading
the message and my heartfelt thanks to you all for being here for me when
I needed a supplement to my f2f meetings.
I think we are carrying the message
throughout e-aa very well.
e-aa has something for everyone. I have been going to the chat room a lot
more lately and I like what I see. I am also on several email list and the
message of recovery is there.
More and more alcoholics are using on line AA to check it out, so to
speak, before they venture into f2f.
I think e-aa is doing an outstanding job.
Do we support the suffering
alcoholic or we do we support AA exclusively? If we support the alcoholic,
then we have a responsibility to direct the alcoholic to alternative
sources if AA is not for them. I've noticed there is a hard core of long
term members plus a revolving door of new ones who rapidly come and go.
Older members are very dismissive when new members question some of AA's
basic tenants. The are also told that no question is a stupid one. Hence
these members often leave even though they are needy. We should lighten up
if we exist to support alcoholics. And we shouldn't terrify new members w/
the jail, institutions, or death speech if they do not follow our program
of recovery. We should say people do become sober outside of AA. AA works
for us, but it doesn't work for everyone.
Overall this group does an excellent
We rock. Not much new age AA here.
Yes. I believe that we are doing a
great job of carrying the message of recovery to alcoholics.
The door is open here, the welcome mat is out, the rest is up to the
Yes...I believe we are. e-AA was my
first introduction to AA and it was a great one!
I have been sober in AA for a long
time and have been on e-aa for about 18 months. Never having been involved
in any online AA, I don't have anything to compare with. The limited list
that I am involved with, women, wl and ehn are definitely fulfilling the purpose
of carrying the message.
Whilst I knew a little about AA my
first real experience of AA was through these rooms of e-aa.
The support I received from the members of e-aa was immense, especially for
someone who was fearful of being an alcoholic.
I must admit that I did get a barrage of the tough love at one point but
there were others in the room you gave me the care that I required.
So yes I, from first hand experience, do think e-aa is doing the right
We exist solely to carry OUR message
of hope to the suffering alcoholic.
That suffering alcoholic needs to have two critical criteria met to
benefit from what we do:
1. If you want what we have
2. and are willing to go to any length to get it.
Obviously, many people don't meet those two standards for what WE're doing
and should seek some other venue.
But for the person who wants to recover from alcoholism, we absolutely
rock. I'm proud e-aa is my online home group.
I won't pretend to have any sort of
a handle on everything that goes on here at e-AA, but I'll share a bit
about what I have found, and what I do utilize here.
I'm a chat user almost exclusively, and that is what I came here for. What
I found was more. I used to spend all my time online at a different
"group." I put group in quotes because there were no group
conscience meetings that I was ever aware of, only a certain group of,
"facilitators." That's the term they use. I guess what I'm
driving at is this. I came here to e-AA and learned that an online group
could actualy FUNCTION AS A GROUP, the same way a f2f group can, should,
and does function.
Life in the chat room is amazing. The newcomers are there, and they are
there in numbers. I often use www.anonpress.org/phone
to point newcomers in the right direction. I tell them that if they'd
like a couple AA's to come right to their door and 12 step 'em PROPER,
that they too can have that, just call you local intergroup and ask.
Someone pointed out something that I've felt strongly about for awhile
now. AA is not nearly so often thought of as the first option for the
alcoholic. More often than not it's treatment centers. 12th step calls are
way down around my neck of the woods, that's for sure. But the numbers of
people I find coming online to find out what we're all about is amazing.
I'm grateful that places like e-AA exist to fill that need.
I tell people, and see others tell people that service in their local
groups is very important to gaining and maintaining sobriety, and is an experience
not to be missed. Going to f2f meetings and getting a f2f
sponsor is stressed regularly.
It's funny how things can come full circle. On page XVIII of the fourth
edition of the Big Book, it says, "New groups started up and it was
found, to the astonishment of everyone, that A.A.'s message could be
transmitted in the mail as well as by word of mouth." Well, here we
are some years later, and it's been a long time since it was so regularly necessary
to use the mail as a primary form of communicating with newcomers,
(aside from the Grapevine), but now here we find ourselves again
communicating in a text format, just electronically. I believe whole-heartedly that it works, and I have seen people introduced, or RE
introduced to AA in this setting that are sober today as a result.
As a member here, I certainly try to carry AA's
message, as well as share my own experience strength and hope, and I believe
that is done here very well. That's the long answer.
Now for the short answer. YES!
Somewhat - as a group, I believe we can sometimes be short sighted, particularly as it comes down to peoples limited to involvement in certain technologies. I.e. People with a chat focus will steer people to chat, forums people to the forums, etc. In saying that I believe this may limit the effectiveness of carrying the message.
One area - particularly in the email arena, where I feel when may not fulfil the basic purpose of carrying the message, is in the area of email list subscribers that are 'lurking' in the background and still drinking. I have no problem with them being on the list at all - but I am aware that they are often not thought about. Almost like they are deaf-mutes (forgive me if that is not politically correct) who everyone ignores because we don't know they are listening and because they don't talk we ignore them. It is not intentional - but perhaps there are lots of opportunities to get people involved, if we are persistent. It might be as simple as having a weekly 'call' email where we ask people to share, who are still struggling to put down or keep down the drink. We might very well occasionally get drunken messages, at the same time, we might just save a few lives as we become reminded that we are only one drink away in our difference.