SoberInMI wrote:I might suggest that a little self reflection may be helpful here. May God Bless You!!!
yes, you could use that.
and thank you for taking my inventory. in doing so, you are leaving someone alone that doesnt know how to handle it yet.
SoberInMI wrote:I might suggest that a little self reflection may be helpful here. May God Bless You!!!
SoberInMI wrote:This posting is slowly degenerating, so I suggest to the Administrator and Moderators that this thread be closed.
Are you telling me that there are unwritten rules about how to word a posting or just YOUR rules?
"....what is happening here is nothing more than a debate."
Or are you going to now dispute that I am an alcoholic.
ezdzit247 wrote:Hi SoberInMI
Thanks for the topic. To answer your original question about whether or not AA allowing clubs to use the term "Alano" is breaking a Tradition, the answer is no, it is not.
The first clubhouse for the first drunks in recovery was founded by AA members in New York in 1940, about a year after the BB was published and about 6 years before AA's founding members published the 12 Traditions. It was called "The 24 Hour Club". Other clubhouses were established as AA spread across the US and more AA groups were formed. Some started calling their clubs "Alanon clubs". It appears that use of the term "Alanon" became problematic after Lois W. and Anne B. founded "Al-anon" family groups in 1951. It was AA's co-founder Bill W. who requested that clubs use the term "Alano" instead of "Alanon" to avoid confusion with the new Al-anon organization and the clubs have been called "Alano" clubs ever since, regardless of whether the term "Alano" appears in each club's legal documents for their articles of incorporation.
ezdzit247 wrote: AA has never had and has no copyright on the word "Alano" and couldn't get one even it tried as the word existed prior to the formation of AA and is public domain.
SoberInMI wrote:ezdzit247 wrote: AA has never had and has no copyright on the word "Alano" and couldn't get one even it tried as the word existed prior to the formation of AA and is public domain.
You proffer a lot of wonderful theories. For example the Alano name theory. You don't argue that it isn't a self-evident form of Alcoholics Anonymous, but as such AA had control over the name and chose not to defend it thus losing control, probably because of the bad publicity that would result. The name Alcoholics Anonymous was registered long before the Alano name was coined. I suppose that in Bill W. suggesting it that it was an explicit exception to the tradition. That seems to be the answer here.
The rest of your theories are just that, theories without any authoritative support. Still, thanks for your input.
What are your thoughts?
Layne wrote:In the original post you askedWhat are your thoughts?
You have a received quite a few thoughts in response. Have they been beneficial and helped to shed any light on things for you?
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