whipping post wrote:This makes me wonder do any of you refer your sponsees to clergy for their fifth step? I see Paige does for crimes. What about for the whole fifth step in general. It seems like I read a post before from someone that said they always refer their sponsees to clergy because they did not want the burden.
Perhaps, though, your relation to him is such that you would care to reveal only a part of your story. If this is the situation, by all means do so, for you ought to make a beginning as soon as you can. It may turn out, however, that you'll choose someone else for the more difficult and deeper revelations. This individual may be entirely outside of A.A.—for example, your clergyman or your doctor.
If we cannot or would rather not do this, we search our acquaintance for a close-mouthed, understanding friend. Perhaps our doctor or psychologist will be the person.
-page 74 Alcoholics Anonymous
Twenty Thirteen wrote:This lady made a confession to her sponsor, who ratted her out to the police.
It's a break of Traditions 11 and 12, if you ask me.
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Brock wrote:
Earlier on in this thread, the full names of alcoholics who have been involved in cases where the 5th step went wrong were included. I think we should show a little more respect for their anonymity, it does not matter if these names are already “out there,” repeating something that is wrong is still wrong.
ODAAT wrote:
If you think about it deeply, Brock, you will conclude that the best possible outcome was achieved in all three cited cases--AA, and its members comported themselves morally and legally in two brutal murder cases and one that involved endangerment to children...
PaigeB wrote:I advise my sponsees that if they have committed crimes that they share THAT info with a lawyer or a religious leader.
I can be subpoenaed to testify in court, as ODAAT said, because I have no legal privilege. They can give me the short story by doing their own connection to the defects & fears which usually present themselves in patterns.
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