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Coffee and AA

Post by mule » Wed Oct 25, 2017 1:17 pm

Should coffee, an addictive beverage, be so closely linked to people with addiction issues.

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Re: Coffee and AA

Post by Chelle » Wed Oct 25, 2017 1:49 pm

I think that if someone has a caffeine problem they should start a support group for that affliction. The same goes for sugar.

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Re: Coffee and AA

Post by PaigeB » Wed Oct 25, 2017 1:51 pm

Yeah. Coffee is part of the tradition. We make decaf too! :D
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Re: Coffee and AA

Post by mule » Wed Oct 25, 2017 1:56 pm

in all seriousness if I were worried about one's future use of an addictive substance I would take their caffeine consumption into account.

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Re: Coffee and AA

Post by PaigeB » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:02 pm

If a person I sponsor was addicted to a substance other than alcohol, I would point them to seeking help for it outside of AA. We, as AA's go to the grocery stores and businesses that sell alcohol and we are not afraid to go there. We do not look down on or up to those who quit cigarettes either. Same for a person who makes a decision to quit caffeine... If they want to go to a meeting, they can bring their own drink or choose the decaf.
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Re: Coffee and AA

Post by mule » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:29 pm

Being in a position where I must convince a special doctor for my profession that I am ready for a lifetime of absolute sobriety from alcohol and literally hundreds of ther medications, I believe I bolster my position by demonstrating that I have no reliance on any substance that changes my brain chemistry.

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Re: Coffee and AA

Post by PaigeB » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:41 pm

It can be done mule. We have a solution for alcohol that can be applied to many aspects of addiction to substances and to other things that alter the mind like anger and fear!
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Re: Coffee and AA

Post by Blue Moon » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:12 pm

mule wrote:Being in a position where I must convince a special doctor for my profession that I am ready for a lifetime of absolute sobriety from alcohol and literally hundreds of ther medications, I believe I bolster my position by demonstrating that I have no reliance on any substance that changes my brain chemistry.
IMO you have to figure out what negative brain-altering chemistry you need to avoid. Many vitamins etc.are brain-altering in a positive way. Yet even those are dangerous in excess, it's just that people don't get physically or emotionally dependent on them.

So, I can drink coffee at will, as it really doesn't affect me. Never did. Worst-case is when a bad brew in a dodgy-diner gives me stomach upset, then I've no problem not having any for a week or so. But someone else might have a problem, putting a shovel-full in a cup like mud. I don't understand what benefit that gives, just as a nonalcoholic doesn't understand why I would drink as I did.
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Re: Coffee and AA

Post by Mike O » Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:54 am

If anyone feels like caffeine is causing their lives to be unmanageable, then I would suggest giving it up.

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Re: Coffee and AA

Post by Roberth » Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:32 am

Drink coffee, don't drink coffee, that's up the person. It's and outside issue as far as AA concerned
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Re: Coffee and AA

Post by clouds » Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:46 am

I can't think of any reasons that coffee would stop me being sober from alcohol right now.

If I do I'll come back and post. Otherwise to drink coffee or not to drink coffee is free choice as far as the AA program goes.

Its an outside issue and as we concentrate on helping others acheive sobriety from alcohol in AA, that's our primary purpose, then its probably not a concern we'll get involved with.
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Re: Coffee and AA

Post by Db1105 » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:39 pm

When I got sober back in the late 1970’s, the cigarette smoke was so thick, you could cut it with a knife. Coffee and cigarettes helped kept me from drinking until I got a sponsor and worked my way through The Twelve Steps. I eventually stopped smoking and cut back on the coffee. In all these years, I still don’t have my affairs in order enough to worry about anyone else’s coffee consumption.

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Re: Coffee and AA

Post by mule » Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:18 pm

Smoke is not alcohol, as said above should we return to the smoke filled rooms of yesteryear? Slot machines are not alcohol, should we start having meeting at casinos. Yes AA is primarily focused on alcohol but should a sponsor watch a member do lines of cocain because it is not alcohol.?

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Re: Coffee and AA

Post by mule » Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:21 pm

To blue moon...caffeine is an addictive psychoactive drug. Vitamins are not...they are only useless and a tax on stupid people.

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Re: Coffee and AA

Post by Blue Moon » Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:02 pm

mule wrote:To blue moon...caffeine is an addictive psychoactive drug. Vitamins are not...they are only useless and a tax on stupid people.
I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make here. If you have a caffeine problem, quit caffeine.
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