avaneesh912 wrote:An Alcoholic without a glass is a miserable being. And with love and little bit of time spent with them, we can show them this "Design for living" solution rather than "Not drink one day at a time" solution. Thats where the fellowship is failing. The alcoholics are churning out picking up 1, 30, 60, 90 day chips but not working the steps and leaving. Because they are hitting the blank spot. Which you totally don't believe. While the book talks over and over again, an alcoholic cannot depend on his own will power. And they have stories to illustrate that. It talks about the spiritual malady, it talks about the peculiar mental twist and then it talks about the craving piece. But yet, you guys talk about not picking up. I started this thread with the cliche we hear in the meetings. So contrary.
its not aa that is failing its the people themselves, we can tell them anything and everything but one thing we can not do is get anyone else sober, if someone is going to drink there going to drink
we can suggest and explain and share our own personal experiences in the hope that a penny might drop but if there really not willing then nothing no matter what is going to work
i had to be ready and for me it took me a real low bottom to make it so
now i have seen many who come around in small groups who have dedicated there sobriety to the sharing of the book in the rooms and many of them have drank again, so to try to say that because aa memebers try to keep it all simple for new comers with simple advice and that is the reason in your head you think aa is falling is just nonsense
aa is working the whole world over, the success rate is low for any organisation that deals in recovery including aa
the ones who are sober today are the lucky few and that is the hard fact of life but aa is doing a great job thanks to its memebers ready willing and able to help and work there 12th step
it really is a beautiful fellowship but you keep on trying to run it down or trying to blame others for what ?
one thing you have to understand is you do not have the power to save anyone you are not a god, and nothing you will say or do will stop anyone from picking up that first drink, that has to come from within the person if there is a desire to do so
today i still have that desire even more so today as i have so much more to lose, so i keep on coming back as its my medication for my illness
i am so very lucky that i have been around aa members with such long term sobriety who kept coming back and still keep on coming back to be of help to anyone if needed
they are an example for us all really as they keep going keep doing service as there still today so very grateful for what aa has given to them some almost 50 years sober
oh and yes there happy in there hearts not 50 years of missery sitting there fighting an urge to not pick up a drink
you really should try some different meetings from the ones you may attend get with some real home grown aa people and grow to love