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New bad habits

Post by eran » Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:57 am

I have been sober for almost a month now but now other bad habits are re emerging. I previously suffered for anorexia/bulimia and now that the drinking has stopped this has re emerged. I have also made several irresponsible expensive purchases. Has anyone else experienced re emerging bad habits following stopping drinking?

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Post by Brock » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:35 am

On the bright side of these problems, is the fact that you recognize them as bad habits, I think the real danger would be to deny it. Each time you are about to engage in doing any of them, asking your higher power, whoever that may be, for strength, will help you overcome it. The same steps, saying you are powerless over each thing can bring relief.

I developed a habit of drinking a lot of zero coke, and still do, maybe twelve cans worth each day. I said this in a meeting, and someone said ‘you are subsituting coke for booze.’ Maybe so, I like to have a glass with something in front of me, and my research says zero coke is close to 100% water, and it tastes better than water, so I personally don’t see it as a bad habit, untill I do I have zero chance of giving it up.
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Post by KathyAnne » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:42 am

Hello & welcome
Yes, I put on weight & was constantly told & reassured to ignore the weight and focus on staying sober which I did then after about 3 years I was very low about my weight & was told about another fellowship that deals with it. I’ve had 5 years in there and lost the weight & my shopping has improved enormously too. This stuff takes time, little baby steps keep going no matter what and make sure you get honest open & willing I couldn’t do this on my own I got a sponser and did and continue to do what’s suggested. It’s quite common for other things to come out & being sober you become very aware of all sorts of stuff but keep going it gets so much better.

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Post by Layne » Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:56 am

Bad habits are the result of thought processes. For me, just stopping my drinking, didn't really change my thought processes all that much. Actions had been changed, but not much else.

Working the 12 steps had a much more profound impact on my thought processes. They gave me a far greater understanding and insight of my thought processes. To this day, I still find that applying the knowledge acquired during working the 12 steps leads to better thought processes, decision making, and a life more in keeping with my goals.

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Re: New bad habits

Post by ebear » Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:55 am

Hi, Eran.

Addictive personalities can seek many forms of relief. I have worked with therapists who have helped me identify the experiences and thinking that lie beneath the behaviors, all of which arise from a desire to control my feelings.

You might benefit from therapy, too. Along the way, you might find healthful alternatives to self-destructive compulsions. Instead of indulging in frivolous purchases, I sometimes get on a kick of tracking all my expenses in a notebook (bill payments, a pack of gum, fueling the car...). That gives me a useful challenge to meet: minimizing any waste. I also track my water consumption with a phone app, making sure I hit my goals. These habits help me get through emotional upheavals.
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Post by avaneesh912 » Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:57 am

Yes, pretty common phenomenon. There are other fellowships we can use for other areas of unmanageability and powerlessness.
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Re: New bad habits

Post by PaigeB » Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:48 pm

eran wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:57 am
I have been sober for almost a month now but now other bad habits are re emerging. I previously suffered for anorexia/bulimia and now that the drinking has stopped this has re emerged. I have also made several irresponsible expensive purchases. Has anyone else experienced re emerging bad habits following stopping drinking?
Yes. Again and still. These times, they come and go and I learn something every time. BUT if I am not sober, I will learn nothing and continue to dig holes I can't get out of!

Like this: I haven't gotten a payday loan since I sobered up, but I have made charges on my credit card - both reasonable and unreasonable - both in time of full Spirit and in time of darkness. I have learned to PAUSE (pg 87) at the impulse and I put things in the cart and wait. Sometimes I still hit GO and sometimes I delete it all and sometimes I go halfway. But I have learned to not just get piles of stuff without a 2nd look! However January is hard cause the bills from Christmas are coming in. :? :cry: :)
Cling to the thought that, in God's hands, the dark past is the greatest possession you have - the key to life and happiness for others. With it you can avert death and misery for them. page 124 BB

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Post by MyNameIsBetsy » Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:19 pm

I didn't pick up old bad habits, but dragged a few existing bad habits with me into sobriety. Like smoking. I reasoned that my focus should be on eliminating alcohol first, then addressing other issues. After about a year in AA, I used our first three steps to quit smoking. So far, I haven't picked up a drink or a cigarette! I'm powerless over both!
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Re: New bad habits

Post by Chelle » Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:13 pm

Hi Eran
Yes! I struggled with disordered eating since my teens. The alcohol shut down a lot of that noise in my head, and consuming 1500 a night in booze didnt bother me too much :shock:

When I sobered up, the anorexia ramped back up as something I could control ( food ), and my cigarette smoking doubled. I was still super sick, but not drinking, which was cool, because that was the goal after all.

Working the steps pointed out so many of my defects, and I was able to start sorting through them. Im happy to report that my eating has balanced out. I was a paltry 87 lbs and very weak. Also, I am 6 months smoke free. This is at 3 YEARS sober. Its not an overnight thing.

Just focus on the sober part and cut your self some slack. Progress not perfection. Dont try to quit too much all at once, or you may fail at everything.

I was so broke that spending ridiculous wasnt quite possible. =biggrin

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Re: New bad habits

Post by tomsteve » Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:31 pm

eran wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:57 am
I have been sober for almost a month now but now other bad habits are re emerging. I previously suffered for anorexia/bulimia and now that the drinking has stopped this has re emerged. I have also made several irresponsible expensive purchases. Has anyone else experienced re emerging bad habits following stopping drinking?
yes. drinking took away the time to practice other bad habits. it took time to work on them to see why i had em and they can still rear their heads from time to time.
however, i am in no way an expert but i dont think anorexia/bulimia are bad habits. theyre a serious disorder that i hope ya seek some extra help with.

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Re: New bad habits

Post by Tasman1 » Sat Jan 25, 2020 12:27 pm

Hi Eran

I’m sober for 8 days after relapsing again.

Been eating a LOT, which seems to happen to me when I put down the booze. I have suffered from bulimia in the past but not for a few decades now. I try to make sure I get exercise instead of cutting down on eating as that is much easier for me.

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Post by D'oh » Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:53 pm

I worked 3 Jobs, Took up Smoking (smoking was allowed in the rooms back then) Coffee and Candy Fetishes.

I had to stay out of my Head for awhile to get "It".

You'll be fine Evan. Just hang in there!

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Re: New bad habits

Post by positrac » Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:19 am

this topic is serious and yet real because what I spent my money on after sobriety was on stupid stuff and so it is part of finding me! Balance, and learning to cope with people who are positive in the rooms. You don't have all the answers and neither do I. but I will know how to handle issues in a manner that will not allow for relapse.

Just hang in there and it'll get better and this time next year you'll look back and wonder what the fuss was about. =biggrin
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Re: New bad habits

Post by Theo50 » Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:48 pm

My ice coffee and peanut butter consumption went up significantly. After 2 1/2 years, due to the resulting intestinal issues, I stopped eating peanut butter completely and cut down on the ice coffee. I tried a bag of gummy bears last week, but my teeth hurt so much when I brushed them, that I won't try that again. I stay away from any deserts as I am very lactose intolerant. I prefer fruit and I have 2 bananas and 2 apples a day as a rule. Plain granola bars are a staple for snacks for me as well.

I have often times thought that I should start smoking cigarettes, as I see the same stress relieving, euphoric expressions on all the AA members as I had cracking open a cold beer, when they light up a cigarette at the end of a meeting. I have never smoked cigarettes and have no idea what psychotropic effect it has on the brain but it must be good enough to risk the inevitable lung cancer and other emphysema type of health conditions.

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Post by Brock » Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:11 pm

...I see the same stress relieving, euphoric expressions on all the AA members as I had cracking open a cold beer, when they light up a cigarette at the end of a meeting.
As a smoker for about fifty years, I am pretty sure the euphoric expression is only because they know that the craving for a cigarette will now end. Maybe the same as cracking open a beer, but with the beer, at least I knew a comforting relaxed feeling would be coming my way about six beers later. Not so with the cigarette, the first puff which satisfies the craving is as good as it gets.

Of course the beers led to major problems, and the cigarettes might also, I only stopped when I got throat cancer. Only those who have really ‘got’ what this program offers, will understand and believe, that the comforting relaxed feeling is possible while breathing in just air.
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