Physical Effects of going sober...i.e the shakes??

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Physical Effects of going sober...i.e the shakes??

Postby kira » Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:35 am

Hi my name is Kira, I am 29 years old...turning the big 3-0 in August...
I am an Australian living & (until recently, as I was fired) work in Madrid.
I am unemployed & looking for work, an alcoholic unemployed fashion designer to be exact.

I just got fired recently for my ¨lck of performance¨ to me, I was working
my ass off, to the point where I got into the habbit of sniffing speed to
be able to keep up with workload.

Ofcourse...to come down from the speed & sleep a little at night, alcohol,
VODKA, to be specific, was the only thing that would bring me down. I would mix it with water & take sips until I fell asleep.

I have never told any of this to anyone...

ButI´m off the speed (after approx 6 months of constant usage). But now
I have the shakes...I´m not productive/functioal without the vodka, I get
the shakes... uncontrolable fits where my body does not let me sta still...
I sweat alot & my hands hake to the point that I can´t even apply
my make up because I tremble so much.

I am writing this with a quater bottle of VODKA just consumed & its only
10.30 am, but if I don´t take it, I just wouldn´t even to write this post
because of the shakes....

HAS ANYBODY HAD THE SAME EXPERIECE???

PLEASE HELP!

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Postby jak » Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:47 am

Hi Kira,

My name is Jim, an alcoholic.

I did not get the shakes, but I have seen plenty of people who do. You will do well with medical attention. The withdrawal from alcohol is dangerous. Seek a doctor's help soon. It gets worse if you do not.

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Postby Mercury Shadow » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:53 am

My name is Bear and I am an alcohlic.

Well Kira, you have to ask your self is that enough to stop? The shakes is one thing that to me was a serious wake up call that I was going to far and I had to look at myself and what was happening. 5 DUI's later as well... I digress, I would say it will be tough but if your willing to give it a go, why not hit up a few meetings,talk to some other alcoholics that have gone through it and give sobriety a try for a while, you will be amazed at the transformation that will take place. Your probably work alot better too

Its not an easy thing to do, trust me I have been there more times than I can count. Just by coming here your reaching out, I suggest keep reaching out in meeting in your city. Best regards

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Postby kira » Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:01 am

...Thanks guys fr the information especially the person that posted the ¨DT¨ post about Delirium Tremons. You were spot on.
I did go to emergency & it because I could finally look up my condition, & find out how to get help. It´s being a living hell, these last 24hrs...I know, its not much but I´m half to 48hours, whih is what the initial intoxification process takes. I´v still got a ong way to go but for no I´m just taing it in 4 hour intervals in between valium hits to keep the tremors at a low.
I still shake...but it´s no so violent as it was in the beginning...
Cross you fingers for me...

These are te lyrics that helped me a bit to a Madonna song ¨HEY YOU¨
I hope it helps someone else...but remember, you cant do it alone.
Iconfessed everything to my partner (he knew nothing & it was really hard)
& I confessed everything to the emegency people, but with their help, &
trying to keep positve, I REALLY want to make it through this.

HEY YOU
DON’T YOU GIVE UP
IT’S NOT SO BAD
THERE’S STILL A CHANCE FOR US

HEY YOU
JUST BE YOURSELF
DON’T BE SO SHY
THERE’S REASONS WHY IT’S HARD

KEEP IT TOGETHER
YOU’LL MAKE IT ALL RIGHT
OUR CELEBRATION IS GOING ON TONIGHT
POETS AND PROPHETS…WHAT ENDING WOULD WE DO?
THIS COULD BE GOOD…HEY YOU

HEY YOU
OPEN YOUR HEART
IT’S NOT SO STRANGE
YOU’VE GOT TO CHANGE…THIS TIME

HEY YOU
REMEMBER THIS
NONE OF IT’S REAL…INCLUDING THE WAY YOU FEEL

KEEP IT TOGETHER
YOU’LL MAKE IT ALL RIGHT
OUR CELEBRATION IS GOING ON TONIGHT
POETS AND PROPHETS…WHAT ENDING WOULD WE DO?
THIS COULD BE GOOD…HEY YOU

SAVE YOUR SOUL, LITTLE SISTER
SAVE YOUR SOUL, LITTLE BROTHER

HEY YOU
SAVE YOURSELF
DON’T RELY ON ANYONE ELSE

FIRST, LOVE YOURSELF
THEN, YOU CAN LOVE SOMEONE ELSE
THEN, YOU CAN CHANGE SOMEONE ELSE
THEN, YOU HAVE SAVED SOMEONE ELSE

BUT, YOU MUST FIRST LOVE YOURSELF
THEN, YOU CAN LOVE SOMEONE ELSE
THEN, YOU CAN CHANGE SOMEONE ELSE
IF YOU CAN CHANGE SOMEONE ELSE
THEN, YOU HAVE SAVED SOMEONE ELSE
BUT, YOU MUST FIRST…

HEY YOU
THERE ON THE FENCE
YOU’VE GOT A CHOICE
ONE DAY…IT WILL MAKE SENSE

HEY YOU
FIRST, LOVE YOURSELF
AND, IF YOU CAN’T
TRY TO LOVE SOMEONE ELSE

KEEP IT TOGETHER
YOU’LL MAKE IT ALL RIGHT
OUR CELEBRATION IS GOING ON TONIGHT
POETS AND PROPHETS…WHAT ENDING WOULD WE DO?
THIS COULD BE GOOD…HEY YOU

FIRST, LOVE YOURSELF
THEN, YOU CAN LOVE SOMEONE ELSE
THEN, YOU CAN CHANGE SOMEONE ELSE
THEN, YOU HAVE SAVED SOMEONE ELSE

BUT, YOU MUST FIRST LOVE YOURSELF
THEN, YOU CAN LOVE SOMEONE ELSE
THEN, YOU CAN CHANGE SOMEONE ELSE
IF YOU CAN CHANGE SOMEONE ELSE
THEN, YOU HAVE SAVED SOMEONE ELSE
BUT, YOU MUST FIRST…

Love to you all,
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Postby Blue Moon » Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:35 am

"Way to go!" as they say here in America :)

With the medical help you've got, you can ride out the storm. Thankfully you didn't get to the hallucination stage - I hear that can be pretty freaky :cry: Physically it gets better pretty quickly, though I found sleep to be a problem for a while. My mind and my body seemed to have a difference of opinion in that area. After a time that got better too, and thankfully I never again had to drink just to be able to get to sleep.

I found diet important early on. Decent food, regular meals even when I didn't feel like eating, and gallons of stuff like orange juice. I found that when I'm not thirsty I don't feel so much like a drink - a strange concept, right? ;) Stuff like chocolate was good too.

Beyond detox / drying out, for me the challenge was the prospect of not drinking again. I didn't really want to drink, with all those side-effects, but I wanted the old "feel good" effect.

That's when I found it was useful to establish a network in AA, and get stuck into AA's recovery program. Others will say "oh, you can have just 1 drink", not realising the consequences for me of consuming a substance that's statistically more addictive than cocaine. Others can drink without such a consequence, but not me. Even a serious prospect of drinking again seems to bring back symptoms of DTs.
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Nearly 2 weeks sober!

Postby kira » Thu May 08, 2008 11:41 am

Hey guys, A special hola! to Ian,

I feel incredibly fantastc!
Even though today has been a drizzly horrible rainy day here in Madrid.
I´ve never felt better!
I´m starting to get my life back on track.

I´ve sent out my CV (which I had to update & re-write in Spanish which took a whole day!) to so many places & websites that I have lost count.

I´ve realised just how much money I´ve been throwing away on speed & alcohol... I hate just thinking about it.
So now I´ve applied for the ¨doll¨ I don´t kno what you guys call it in the states, it´s like what the goverment pays you when you´re out of work.
Anyway, I get paid on the 10th, & I´ll get it for 8 months, & according to my calculations...now that I don´t spend my money on my ¨bad habbits¨ I can live just fine off that.

I won´t be buying clothes or going to concerts anytime soon, but that´ll do me. I´m just happy to be feeling ¨normal¨ again...
Something I thought I would never feel again.

I´m quite proud of myself actually...
And I´ve never felt that about myself either!

Pretty strange...out of work, on the ¨doll¨ yet I feel proud of myself...weird!

Well, next week I see my psycologist again (he´s great!) to check on my progress, & I´m glad to say I´ve only got good news for him :D

I´m starting my life over.

It´s like a re-birth...or something.

Feels good anyway!

Wish me luck on the job front!

Kissesssssssssss
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Postby jak » Thu May 08, 2008 1:41 pm

Hi Kira,

I'm glad you are improving. For the shakes I agree with Ian, healthy eating and also balanced rest and exercise go a long way.

If you are prescribed medicine ask the Doc about vitamine supliments.

Our blood suger takes time to balance and regulate. I get the shakes from low blood sugar. Though I did not get the shakes from drinking I do get them when I go too long without nutrition.

Thaks for the update. Keep sharing.

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Thanks Jak!

Postby kira » Fri May 09, 2008 2:38 am

Today, I´m 10 days sober!
And I´m going to celebrate it by going to Ikea to buy a lamp I broke
a couple of months back...I think I was drunk at the time :?
Wow!
I can´t believe I let myself make such a mess of my life...
I just didn´t see it at the time, but not drinking, now I see the damage
it has caused in all facets of my life.

I never want to be that person again!

Do you guys have Ikea in the states?
Well, it´s in Australia & Spain, so I figure you guys must have it too.
Anyway, it´s this mega store of cheap Swiss (I think) chain stores of
furniture & thousands of trinkets...which I just adoooooooore looking
at! they have great ideas!

Hey..
Right off the topic now...
I heard about Whitney Houston´s daughter attacking her own mother
with a knife & then attempting suicide by slashing her wrists!!!
Is this true???
Spain´s not too hooked into American goss...they usually get it wrong
or they don´t even bother with it.
For example, yesterday on the most watched tv channel here in Spain,
TVE1, they showed a badly dubbed interview of Johnny Depp but the
caption below was spelt JOHNY DEEP!! One ¨n¨ & two ¨e¨s!! I couldn´t
believe it!
But, I really do feel sorry for Whitney´s daughter...
I mean both her parents are crack addicts, aren´t they?
And she´s only 15!

Poor girl!

Addiction is hell on earth!

It affects not only you, but everybody around you!

Luckily, I have been able to detox without my mother or family
knowing about my problem...they live in Valencia.

I couldn´t bear the thought of my mum or my 13 year old sister,
seeing me the way I was!
My mum is way too sensitive for that stuff...
If she´d found out, she´d cry, blame herself, cry some more & keep
blaming herself... and that wouldn´t be of much help to me either!
So it´s under wraps as far as the family goes.

Well, I better get going to Ikea before it starts raining again...

Thank you guys!
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Postby Blue Moon » Fri May 09, 2008 6:28 pm

Yep, Ikea in the US - very popular. We had similar stores in the UK, such as MFI.

As for addiction, yes it affects many people - the closer you are, the bigger the target becomes.
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I Slept!!!

Postby kira » Mon May 12, 2008 3:31 am

Last night, for the first time in MONTHS I finally slept the entire
night through, no vodka, no pills...
I woke up & it was 8:55am!!!
Not 2am, not 4am, not 5am...it was nearly 9am!!!

Today I am 13 days sober so tomorrow I will be 2 weeks sober!!!

And I slept!

I never thought I´d get this far...not in a million years.

I think I´ve used alcohol to be able to sleep for YEARS now that I
think about it.
I would fall asleep only to wake up a few hours later, & the only thing
that would shut my head the F*** UP...would be vodka. I did this
countless times.
Bt yesterday I took my puppy dog Nikki (she´s a beautiful yorkshire
terrier of 6 months) to ¨El Parque Del Retiro¨, here in the centre of Madrid.

I live about a 20 minute walk away.

It was a beautiful day; sunny, bright blue skies, fresh slight breeze...
the beginnings of summer.
Nikki & I ended up walking around the park for about 2 hours. Watching
the people row the boats in the artificial lake, the rollerbladers, the small,
man-made waterfalls, the greenest grass I´ve seen in a long time...
It was beautiful.

We walked & walked & walked... So I guess we came back pretty tired.

So I´ve com to discover that EXCERSISE is a major benefit when
you´re detoxing. It certainly helped me sleep last night!
And you don´thave to go to a gym.
EXCERSISE can be mopping the floors of your appartment, cleaning out
your wardrobe, tidying up cabinets & draws, which also helps you re-organise
yourself & clears the mess up the mess around you...
You´d be surprised at what a neat environment can do to the mind & body.

Excersise can be a trip to Ikea... that place is HUGE & lots of walking
around, looking at all the different things the have. It keeps you destracted,
for hours! It even inpsires you to want to keep your living aspace neat & tidy
& even to one day, maybe, be able to have the money to have a super
trendy set up like what you see in the magaznes.

It may sound silly, but it´s the little things like this that are really hepling
me see & desire things again that noral people do.

To look after myself, look after my apartment, my puppy, my loved ones.

I recently realised that althougt I moved from Sidney to Madrid to be closer
to my family... in the end, I became closer to alcohol.
My family lives 2 hours from me & I would avoid seing them so I could spend my time drunk!
I would make up all sorts of excuses...work, friend´s (which didn´t exist) birthdays...
any excuse to be able to spend the weekends high & then drunk.

Alcohol takes everything away from you.
Your family, your realtionships, yourself even!

As I said earlier, I have been able to hide this from my family.
They do not know I am detoxing.

So I have made an effort to stay in contact with them, writing them emails,
text messages, calling them etc.

Family is important & these last few days that I have felt so good & my
tremors are down to a low...I think I´m ready t see them now & even
looking forward to it...not dreading it, like I used to!

I am eating healthy (except for the occasional chocolate bar), lots of fruit,
cereals, fibre, juices & gallons of water.
I think this has reeeeeally helped. It cleanses your body...
Lots of green tea full of anitioxidents & vitamin supliments are helping the
detox process too.

Walking alot, taking the stairs alot, cleaning alot around the house,
staying active.

Relaxing is important aswell. Reading (positive books), playing with my
puppy, drawing, writing letters to those who have helped me through this,
writing emails to my sister, writing & reading posts here at The e-AA
group, paiting my nails, listening to music... there are so many things you
can do to relax & spend time on yourself & reflecting on the things that
have got you this far & to be grateful for what you have...

Its such a beautiful sunny day in Madrid today...

I am going to go out & enjoy it.

2 weeks sober tomorrow!

WOW!

I can´t wait!

Kisses to all,
Til´next time,

Kira :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Postby jak » Mon May 12, 2008 10:27 am

Thanks for sharing Kira,

I just realized we have not said much about AA meetings and our AA groups. I would not be here if I had not joined AA. The 12 steps have brought change to my life that filled the needs that booze and drugs seemed to help me with.

When the alcohol quit working and things got worse I had to quit, but I could never stay sober for long periods. And every time I went back drinking the terror increased.

AA meetings and AA members and AA books led me to a new way of dealing with life. My involvement with this e-AA group helps me, but it is only a suppliment to my AA program. I need the people in my home group. They are my connection to my ongoing recovery.

Have you considered visiting an AA meeting? You can meet people like us there.
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Re: Physical Effects of going sober...i.e the shakes??

Postby wyniea » Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:44 pm

i am 19 and a recovering narcotic user i had the same simptoms they do go away in time. the more you drink though the worse it will be. when you quit for good, other symptoms will include. mood swings, temmers, shakes, vomiting, sweating, cravings, diahrea, dpending on how bad the drinking is seizures, delusions, but like i said ion time thise will go away , anythign in life is worth fighting for yes you will wiothdrawl for a while but think how good life will be without the booze. go to meetings, get a sponsor, if necessary go to a detox and then a treatment facaility, you cant fight the disease of alcholism alone, remember one day at a time. it will get worse before it gets better. all the luck to you i hope you find your way into recovery.
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