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Re: Nothing but Nudge from the Judgers

Postby Cristy99 » Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:16 am

I don't agree or disagree with the courts forcing offenders to attend meetings. It is what it is. All I want to say is that I have seen a number of people who were forced to be there ACCIDENTALLY hear something that hit home with them. As a result, these people are still sober, working the program, and actually growing. One of which is our group's GSR. I chaired our speaker meeting last night and there was a new-comer who was there because the judge made him. When I signed his sheet I introduced myself and told him I was very glad to get to meet him. I suggested to him that since he HAD to be there, he might as well listen to what is said to see if there was anything he identified with, and that if he did hear anything that reminded him of him, we are there to help. Could it be that God has placed "Nudge from the Judgers" at the meeting for a reason???? Hmmmm......
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Re: Nothing but Nudge from the Judgers

Postby Patsy© » Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:54 am

Cristy99 wrote:I don't agree or disagree with the courts forcing offenders to attend meetings. It is what it is. All I want to say is that I have seen a number of people who were forced to be there ACCIDENTALLY hear something that hit home with them. As a result, these people are still sober, working the program, and actually growing. One of which is our group's GSR. I chaired our speaker meeting last night and there was a new-comer who was there because the judge made him. When I signed his sheet I introduced myself and told him I was very glad to get to meet him. I suggested to him that since he HAD to be there, he might as well listen to what is said to see if there was anything he identified with, and that if he did hear anything that reminded him of him, we are there to help. Could it be that God has placed "Nudge from the Judgers" at the meeting for a reason???? Hmmmm......


Exactly Cristy, what a powerful message you carry! :D

My experience with Court-ordered AA attendance is that it doesn't matter where they come from, how they got here, what they have done or not done. We AA members at our home group just want them to have the same chance that we did to get sober and recover.

I trust God and I trust that God knows exactly what He is doing. I also trust that God will get these people where He wants them to go and all WE have to do....is stay out of God's way :)

This drunk reaches out my hand to all who are coming through those doors of AA with a simple "welcome, we are so glad you are here"..... because reaching out my hand to the person who is court ordered to the AA meetings, helps this drunk to stay sober for one more day,.... whether they do or not. We sign the paper to show they attended the AA meeting, not that we are going to keep them sober or prevent a relapse.

Anger is pretty common in most if not all newcomers, we drunks don't come through those doors of AA dancing and singing. We come through those doors completely lost, hurting, confused, angry, sad, depressed, anxious, irritable, discontent and full of fear.
When we say to a court ordered person that we simply refuse to sign their slip, what we are really doing is showing that person that WE think its much more important how they got here, then it is to help them to achieve sobriety.

Here in our area, its up to the Group Conscience of each AA Group, what it is that their AA Group wants to do, sign or not sign. There was a time here when some Groups were coming to blows about this issue, and a simple AA Group Conscience really settles it.

Our AA Group voted to sign them, and we have gone to share with Judges and court officials what AA is, and what AA isn't, so that they are aware when they are court-ordering these people, that if they are not at the meeting or they come in at the end of the meeting, we do not sign the paper, or if they are disruptive to the AA meeting, they will be asked to leave or be escorted outside.

Most of the court-ordered people who come to our AA Group meeting are very respectful, and there are several court-ordered people, who are now AA members in our AA Group, who kept coming, and they stayed and they have long term sobriety, and those AA members seem to be the first there to reach out to those who are coming through the doors of AA with slips to be signed.

At our AA Group Conscience, the real deciding factor among our AA Group was that we have absolutely no idea who will and who will not hear the message of hope, and that we are not gathered together at this AA Group meeting, to guess, judge, try to read minds or play God with a sick and suffering alcoholics life.
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Re: Nothing but Nudge from the Judgers

Postby JohnDaniels » Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:11 am

I don't care how they get here. I'm no politician. Can you imagine me running for political office? "Elect JohnDaniels! 12 Step Guru! Do What I Say!"

I grabbed a guy up from a meeting one night who was going into DT's. One of the guys I sponsor and I ran him over to the hospital in my truck. Since you have to have insurance now and this wet one didn't have any insurance, my guy carried him to the doors of the emergency room and dumped him off. Then ran inside acting all frantic, "Hey you better get out here quick! There's something wrong with this guy!" They came out with a gurney and took him in. We sat there in the parking lot to make sure everything went as planned. Hey a hospital has got to know it's limitations.
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Re: Nothing but Nudge from the Judgers

Postby Cristy99 » Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:53 am

JohnDaniels wrote

I grabbed a guy up from a meeting one night who was going into DT's. One of the guys I sponsor and I ran him over to the hospital in my truck. Since you have to have insurance now and this wet one didn't have any insurance, my guy carried him to the doors of the emergency room and dumped him off. Then ran inside acting all frantic, "Hey you better get out here quick! There's something wrong with this guy!" They came out with a gurney and took him in. We sat there in the parking lot to make sure everything went as planned. Hey a hospital has got to know it's limitations.



Way to go JohnDaniels!!

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Re: Nothing but Nudge from the Judgers

Postby Doddering Moron » Fri Sep 29, 2017 5:38 pm

The first mistake you are was getting off your arse to lead the meeting. Don't do that. That's foolish. If the meeting has no structure -it should be dissolved.
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Re: Nothing but Nudge from the Judgers

Postby Soberguy27 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:22 am

First off as far as I know aa is not required to sign anything and only do so as a courtesy. When I was secretary at a meeting ( that's what we call the leader of a meeting where I live) i did not sign any court slips until the end of the meeting. Now some who came with slips didn't stay in the meeting and only came back to pick up their slips at the end but they were stuck until the end of the meeting. Nothing can be done about that but, some actually did stay and I am happy to report some are still sober. Bottom line is no one gets sober until they want to get sober.
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Re: Nothing but Nudge from the Judgers

Postby Soberguy27 » Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:29 pm

I feel that those who have attendance sheet should stay for the meeting. That said, AA is not obligated to sign anything and it is only done as a courtesy. Personally I have seen people drop off their attendance sheets then leave only to return at the end of the meeting. Although we always want to help those who are seeking help, I don't think the courts should make people go to AA. Most of the people who are court ordered to attend only do so to avoid jail time. So the next time you volunteer I would sign the attendance sheets at the end. At least then they will have to wait until the end of the meeting whether or not they were actually in the meeting.
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