Sponsoring someone with a dual addiction?

Most of us who recovered with AA's program did so with the help of a "sponsor". But what is sponsorship? How do I get one? Who can be a sponsor? What makes a good sponsor?
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Re: Sponsoring someone with a dual addiction?

Post by happycamper » Sun Oct 24, 2010 4:02 am

I have found in my short 6 yrs sober in AA that its difficult anymore to find the good old fashion 'drunk'. Many are what they call themselves .. cross - addicted. ( and it is beyond me how someone can be addicted to crosses ,lol. but I suppose .. ).

If someone asks me to sponsor them I first start off by meeting with them to learn about them, do a little sharing. ( and I always try to read over chapter 7 prior to this meeting to refresh my memory as to what I really should/shouldnt be doing ).
If the new person is dually addicted, I simply explain to them that I use the big book of alcoholics anonymous as my guide ( as well as my own esh, God and my sponsor ) and that is all that I will use. I cannot necessarily help them with any thing much other than alcohol.

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Post by Sober25 » Sun Oct 24, 2010 4:37 am

I don't mind sponsoring someone with a dual addiction - or multi-addiction for that matter. I qualifiy for a few 12 step organizations myself. All addictions are manifestations of a codependent personality anyway. We come from dysfunctional families and we don't all choose the same 'drug of choice' but we all choose something to cover up the painful emotions we don't want to (or don't know how to) deal with. The 12 steps will work for anyone who will approach them respectfully and will be painstaking about working them and living by them.
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Re: Sponsoring someone with a dual addiction?

Post by Glynn » Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:52 am

I have multiple addictions too. What-ever I do, it seems that I get addicted to it. Don't all alcoholics?

I often share that at one stage I was eating Fisherman's Friends by the box, Apples at over twenty a day (mostly three at a time, never one), collect stuff to obsession and have to be expert at everything I study. I began to realise that I was doing everything in the same way as I drank, when, one day I was driving home and I suddenly realised that I had no apples at home, I HAD to go to the supermarket and buy a couple of bags! It was exactly the same feeling I had when I knew there was no drink at home. Now that has to be addiction simply in my head, not because it is a drug, unless apples are drugs and no-body told me!

I feel that I can sponsor people if they have my head, it doesn't really matter what they are addicted to, the same principles are there, the same steps are there, the same programme fits all. I have to admit that I am powerless over everything and everyone, that includes my wife, the local radio station and apples. That is the important part for me, I am powerless over everything but me!

Saying that, if someone has addictions that I don't have, it is always good for them to share about it in meetings as there are bound to be others sharing the same problems and they can chat about their common problems that relate to their peculiarities. (Yes, I know, I'm pretty peculiar, not yet met anyone else addicted to apples, but that addiction has left me at the moment, perhaps because our apple tree has been stripped of apples and there are boxes of them! It's cheese at the moment, why can't I get addicted to exercise?) I have heard that other people have similar problems with food, porn, etc and some people are obsessed with subjects too, one bloke I know knows more about a certain guitarist that that guitarist does, but when they share about it, there are always lots of nods in the rooms.

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Re: Sponsoring someone with a dual addiction?

Post by Steven F » Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:07 am

On closer investigation, I need to add computer games to my list... 8)

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Re: Sponsoring someone with a dual addiction?

Post by jak » Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:15 am

Glynn wrote:I have multiple addictions too. What-ever I do, it seems that I get addicted to it. Don't all alcoholics?
I often share that at one stage I was eating Fisherman's Friends by the box, Apples at over twenty a day (mostly three at a time, never one), collect stuff to obsession and have to be expert at everything I study. I began to realise that I was doing everything in the same way as I drank, when, one day I was driving home and I suddenly realised that I had no apples at home, I HAD to go to the supermarket and buy a couple of bags! It was exactly the same feeling I had when I knew there was no drink at home. Now that has to be addiction simply in my head, not because it is a drug, unless apples are drugs and no-body told me!

I feel that I can sponsor people if they have my head, it doesn't really matter what they are addicted to, the same principles are there, the same steps are there, the same programme fits all. I have to admit that I am powerless over everything and everyone, that includes my wife, the local radio station and apples. That is the important part for me, I am powerless over everything but me!

Saying that, if someone has addictions that I don't have, it is always good for them to share about it in meetings as there are bound to be others sharing the same problems and they can chat about their common problems that relate to their peculiarities. (Yes, I know, I'm pretty peculiar, not yet met anyone else addicted to apples, but that addiction has left me at the moment, perhaps because our apple tree has been stripped of apples and there are boxes of them! It's cheese at the moment, why can't I get addicted to exercise?) I have heard that other people have similar problems with food, porn, etc and some people are obsessed with subjects too, one bloke I know knows more about a certain guitarist that that guitarist does, but when they share about it, there are always lots of nods in the rooms.

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Re: Sponsoring someone with a dual addiction?

Post by Glynn » Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:35 am

Sorry Jak, am I right in assuming that you are saying that you don't think all alcoholics have other obsessions?

I realise that there are as many different types of alcoholics as there are snowflakes, but, we are all so similar too, in other ways, or this programme wouldn't work as it does, through identification and seeing the need to find a power greater than me.

I have to admit that I am powerless over apples just as much as I am powerless over the first drink, if I have one apple, I will probably have three, the big difference is that with apples I tend not to fall over or black out. I am insane, I accept that today, but with the help of AA and my HP, I can try to live a relatively sane life without picking up a drink today.

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Re: Sponsoring someone with a dual addiction?

Post by jak » Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:27 am

Sorry Jak, am I right in assuming that you are saying that you don't think all alcoholics have other obsessions?
I am not saying it. I am saying that the book Alcoholics Anonymous states this.

My opinion is that you have described a type of addict.

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Re: Sponsoring someone with a dual addiction?

Post by Roberth » Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:51 pm

I past on the same simply program that was given to me, I don't customize a program. They taught me I had to change not AA.
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