You've still not explained what is meant by "outside sponsorship system". You're talking in riddles, I'm unaware of any "outside sponsorship system" in AA.From the heart wrote: The oldest group in Washington called the Midtown A.A. group is experiencing the wreckage of the outside sponsorship system.
Midtown is one group, and it's not this group. e-AA has no opinion on any specifics of what takes place in any other AA group, and certainly not what appears to me not even an AA group. Take it up with AA's General Service Office in New York if you want.
I don't disagree with your assertions about sponsorship. Yet you're insisting that people prove something they never tried to claim. That's out of order. You're the only person in this forum who's mentioned the word "sponsor" as allegedly being in the Big Book. Nobody else has. You claim to have an understanding of AA's Traditions, yet are clearly flouting those Traditions here. Check out Traditions 1, 2, 3, 4, 10 and 12.
I've asked nicely, now I'm telling you... stop Trolling e-AA's forums. There'll be no further discussion about Midtown Group in this "Sponsorship" forum, and there'll be no further demands to "prove" where the word "sponsor" appears in a book that nobody here claimed it to be written in. Both discussions are off-topic and out of order.
If any current or former members of the Midtown or any other group are struggling and want to understand more about what AA really is instead of what nonsense they learned in some apparently non-AA entity, they're very welcome to post in our "If it doesn't fit anywhere else" forum.
Ebby didn't drink because he'd "pitched", 12th Stepped or sponsored. Only Ebby can truly know why Ebby drank again, but the evidence appears to indicate that he later copped a resentment about AA and didn't work his own program.P.S. Ebby got drunk after he pitched to Bill
Incidently, that's usually why alcoholics drink again after discovering AA. They cop a resentment and don't work their own program.