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Re: Alcoholic - Not drinking

Postby ezdzit247 » Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:23 pm

applecorp wrote:
2granddaughters wrote:
Are you attending AA meetings?

Bob


No, I haven't. I have been reading and adopting a healthier mindset which has allowed me to be more productive. I do feel more positive and look forward to continued sobriety I try not and obsess about not drinking, meaning I don't think about alcohol. My initial reaction to stress used to be drinking, now it is eating. I do realize I have exchanged one addiction for another but it is still progress. I now need to focus on the overeating. All in good time!

Merry Christmas. :D


Merry Christmas, Christian! Good to hear from you.

Congratulations on 16 weeks of sobriety!

Exchanging one addiction for another is fairly common in recovery. it's really good that you're aware you've done that.

Have you tried working an adapted version of the 12 Steps without a deity? There are many many different versions of the Steps which have been adapted by atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, Muslims, Taoists, etc in AA and most of them are available on the net via google. Can't hurt...might help, huh?

Happy New Year! Keep coming back.....
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Re: Alcoholic - Not drinking

Postby Lali » Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:40 am

Tosh wrote:
Far be it from me to tell anyone how they should live their life, but I can maybe try and explain a bit about the human condition. In A.A. we're taught we have a 'spiritual malady', but really - from my own understanding - everyone has it; even non-alcoholics. We humans are, by nature, restless, irritable and discontented; anxious even; this is the manifestation of the 'spiritual malady'. There's some very good reasons why we should be this way; evolution by natural selection does not favour animals who're peaceful and just sit about all day, contented.

But for me, when I drank, I'm wired in such a way that it solved that restlessness problem - it made me feel whole - peaceful; it gave me a sense of ease and comfort. Take away the drink, and I'm still left with the restlessness and anxiety and these feelings can push me to do lots of other stuff. I can be short-tempered, tetchy, angry and my mind starts looking for things to fill that 'hole' that I used to treat with the booze. I'll consider having an affair - maybe that'll distract me - or gambling (I dare not gamble; I suspect that would be like taking a drink for me); or internet porn - or even over eating.

I sponsor a guy who is a member of three different 12 Step fellowships (one of them is Over-eaters Anonymous) and I strongly identify with his behaviours from all of them.

Ultimately I've only found one treatment for the human condition that works enough for me to be comfortable enough to not be overly forced into damaging and harmful behaviours.

Yeh, it's the 12 Steps.

Sorry. :lol:


Beautifully said!

Christian, I hope you have a happy and healthy Christmas.
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Re: Alcoholic - Not drinking

Postby Spirit Flower » Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:52 am

I have been reading and adopting a healthier mindset which has allowed me to be more productive.


To me, this sounds like using will power for my problem.
In the appendix to the big book, it mentions "tapping an unsuspected inner resource." This truly is the solution. It may be God or Spirit. It may also be the right side of the brain. But working the steps leads us to it. We clear away mental blocks. We enter silence. Then the inner resource speaks. We are saved from drinking; or opening our mouths.
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Re: Alcoholic - Not drinking

Postby applecorp » Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:13 pm

Happy New Year all!

So, the diet started on Monday with exercising to be added into the mix any....day....now. 8)

It was a good holiday season, especially without the booze!

I am looking forward to a productive, positive year. I hope you all have the same! :D
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Re: Alcoholic - Not drinking

Postby Tosh » Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:25 pm

applecorp wrote:Happy New Year all!

So, the diet started on Monday with exercising to be added into the mix any....day....now. 8)

It was a good holiday season, especially without the booze!

I am looking forward to a productive, positive year. I hope you all have the same! :D


Happy New Year to you too, applecorp, a day-at-a-time.
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Re: Alcoholic - Not drinking

Postby chrisgeb77 » Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:46 am

Hi I'm new to this site so do n't no if I'm doing this right. I've been a alcoholic for twenty years but I'm pleased to say I have been dry for just over four months it hasn't been easy I seem to be constantly fight this voice in my head telling go on have just one you'll be ok it's constant struggle but so far I've managed to avoid will this ever stop
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Re: Alcoholic - Not drinking

Postby Brock » Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:41 am

Welcome to e-AA chrisgeb77, there are a lot of good folks and advice here. You can do as you have and post questions on an existing thread or start a new one yourself. At the top of each page you will see board index on the left, the first few topics can answer questions about using the site, a little below that you will see a list of links to take you to new posts directly, or my favorite “View active topics,” this makes checking what’s current easy. Please feel free to ask any questions, and to answer others when you feel you have the experience to do so, quite often a new member can gain a lot from another new person, even just to know they are not alone.

I am sorry about the struggle you have to endure at this time it is something we all went through. I didn’t believe some of the people when I first came to AA, they were smiling and saying this feeling will pass, but they said I must do the steps first. Eventually I came to believe, by the time I had completed step five I was a new man, I can’t tell you when last a drink crossed my mind, because it really never does. What the book says is true, on page 83 it says we will be amazed before we are half way through, maybe you can let us know if you are attending meetings and have thought about getting a sponsor to assist you, all the best to you.
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Re: Alcoholic - Not drinking

Postby chrisgeb77 » Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:40 pm

hi thanks for your reply and your advice lull get used to using forum. Don't really know much about aa meeting s or how to get a sponsor.
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Re: Alcoholic - Not drinking

Postby ezdzit247 » Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:30 pm

applecorp wrote:Happy New Year all!

So, the diet started on Monday with exercising to be added into the mix any....day....now. 8)

It was a good holiday season, especially without the booze!

I am looking forward to a productive, positive year. I hope you all have the same! :D


Happy New Year, Christian!

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Re: Alcoholic - Not drinking

Postby applecorp » Mon May 16, 2016 9:42 am

Update - still not drinking. I did lose 50 pounds recently though, that's nice. I have yet to go to a meeting and probably won't but to each their own. Whatever works. Best wishes to all who are still fighting.
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Re: Alcoholic - Not drinking

Postby Brock » Mon May 16, 2016 10:58 am

Best wishes to all who are still fighting.

Very nice to see you are doing well applecorp, just to clarify, anyone who does the work is not still fighting anything, from our big book -
And we have ceased fighting anything or anyone, even alcohol…. We will see that our new attitude toward liquor has been given us without any thought or effort on our part. It just comes! That is the miracle of it. We are not fighting it, neither are we avoiding temptation. We feel as though we had been placed in a position of neutrality safe and protected. We have not even sworn off. Instead, the problem has been removed. It does not exist for us. We are neither cocky nor are we afraid. That is how we react so long as we keep in fit spiritual condition.

Any real alcoholic could not do what you have done and live happily, once again our book speaks of those who can do what you are doing.
Then we have a certain type of hard drinker. He may have the habit badly enough to gradually impair him physically and mentally. It may cause him to die a few years before his time. If a sufficiently strong reason ill health, falling in love, change of environment, or the warning of a doctor becomes operative, this man can also stop or moderate, although he may find it difficult and troublesome and may even need medical attention.

This is in the newcomer section of our forum, and any new person reading this better think twice about using the “applecorp method” of staying sober, most of us have tried it, I did many many times, landing flat on my backside each time, and finally flat on my back in hospital.
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Re: Alcoholic - Not drinking

Postby Stepchild » Mon May 16, 2016 6:27 pm

Great to hear you stopped drinking Applecorp....No matter how you did it. But I know for myself and most people I know in AA that would be impossible. I wouldn't have bothered with this AA deal if this was a fight I could win on my own. I couldn't win....And the 12 steps of AA worked when nothing else did. Here is a part from the book that sheds a little light on the subject...

As we look back, we feel we had gone on drinking many years beyond the point where we could quit on our will power. If anyone questions whether he has entered this dangerous area, let him try leaving liquor alone for one year. If he is a real alcoholic and very far advanced, there is scant chance of success. In the early days of our drinking we occasionally remained sober for a year or more, becoming serious drinkers again later. Though you may be able to stop for a considerable period, you may yet be a potential alcoholic. We think few, to whom this book will appeal, can stay dry anything like a year. Some will be drunk the day after making their resolutions; most of them within a few weeks.

For those who are unable to drink moderately the question is how to stop altogether. We are assuming, of course, that the reader desires to stop. Whether such a person can quit upon a nonspiritual basis depends upon the extent to which he has already lost the power to choose whether he will drink or not. Many of us felt that we had plenty of character. There was a tremendous urge to cease forever. Yet we found it impossible. This is the baffling feature of alcoholism as we know it - this utter inability to leave it alone, no matter how great the necessity or the wish.

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Re: Alcoholic - Not drinking

Postby ezdzit247 » Tue May 17, 2016 1:32 pm

applecorp wrote:Update - still not drinking. I did lose 50 pounds recently though, that's nice. I have yet to go to a meeting and probably won't but to each their own. Whatever works. Best wishes to all who are still fighting.


Hi Christian. Good to hear from you and thanks for the update!

I remember one of your first shares in this forum was that you had made the decision to stop drinking for a year to see how you liked sobriety. You're about 12-14 weeks away from being sober for TWO years now so I'm guessing somewhere along the way you decided you liked sobriety? Awwwwwwsome!!!

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