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by Steven F
Sat May 03, 2014 12:04 pm
Forum: Big Book Study
Topic: (2014-04-04) Bill's Story
Replies: 9
Views: 19482

Re: (2014-04-04) Bill's Story

PaigeB wrote:GOOD! damn rumors in this program - seriously.
If you are interested - Hazelden has published a biography of Ebby T, written by Mel B. and titled "Ebby-The Man Who Sponsored Bill W.".
by Steven F
Sat May 03, 2014 12:01 pm
Forum: Big Book Study
Topic: (2014-04-04) Bill's Story
Replies: 9
Views: 19482

Re: (2014-04-04) Bill's Story

Just as many of you, I have read Bill's story many times. And many times, I didn't relate to much of it. In fact, I found it hard not be judging the character painted in the "story". Some elements were familiar, some weren't at all. Bill's story seemed a bit out of place for me. It generated resista...
by Steven F
Sat May 03, 2014 11:20 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: How long do people have to stay at aa
Replies: 25
Views: 6456

Re: How long do people have to stay at aa

I'm not sure that one goes through the programme in order to be able to manage ones own life again. To me, that seems to go against the premises of step 3. The programme doesn't tell us that, once we are sober, we get to run the show again and sign off without continuing the work - quite on the cont...
by Steven F
Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:24 am
Forum: The 12 Steps
Topic: Amends to my sister
Replies: 15
Views: 11150

Re: Amends to my sister

Is it really necessary to make amends? If you really want to get free, if you want to stop looking over your shoulder, if you want to stop avoiding people because something doesn't feel right, if you want to stop needing to make assumptions about what others think for the world to make sense, and i...
by Steven F
Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:09 am
Forum: For the Newcomer
Topic: Religion and AA Meeting Protocol
Replies: 36
Views: 12411

Re: Religion and AA Meeting Protocol

Good to see you back! Our description of the alcoholic, the chapter to the agnostic, and our personal adventure before and after make clear three pertinent ideas: (a) That we were alcoholic and could not manage our own lives. (b) That probably no human power could have re- lieved our alcoholism. (c)...
by Steven F
Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:07 am
Forum: For the Newcomer
Topic: Religion and AA Meeting Protocol
Replies: 36
Views: 12411

Re: Religion and AA Meeting Protocol

Since I won't be able to talk with you face-to-face for an afternoon or so, I'll give you the short answer: "God" is just a word. Why do I keep getting told that this is a nonreligious fellowship when the literature is clearly drenched in religious terminology and ideology? Because your thinking min...
by Steven F
Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:49 am
Forum: If It Doesn't Fit Anywhere Else
Topic: A whopper of a problem...
Replies: 16
Views: 4782

Re: A whopper of a problem...

What can I say with only your part of the story in my mind? I read quite some judgement about your mother in law, and I read a lot of hooks and angles that can easily be misread. You know, whenever we are absolutely sure we said something in context, we need to remember that we are not the master of...
by Steven F
Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:02 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: AA and religion etc...
Replies: 100
Views: 17084

Re: AA and religion etc...

Just been checking about the Oxford Group - it WAS them who got banned by the Vatican, in 1955 and 1957. Because of their links with the National Sociatlists in Germany they changed their name to Moral Rearmament. Didn't know any of this - interesting history. It was Moral Rearmament that was banne...
by Steven F
Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:40 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: AA and religion etc...
Replies: 100
Views: 17084

Re: AA and religion etc...

Feel free to pm me if you would like to discuss this further. I think we shouldn't bore people with this stuff in the forum ;-).
by Steven F
Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:35 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: AA and religion etc...
Replies: 100
Views: 17084

Re: AA and religion etc...

Yes. Protestant priest - his title is Vicar and he is an ordained priest? Why do you ask? He was concerned with the link to the Oxford Group. Apparently they were banned by the Catholic Church for heresy, but you would know more about that, being Catholic. Nope. That was the Oxford Movement - not t...
by Steven F
Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:24 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: AA and religion etc...
Replies: 100
Views: 17084

Re: AA and religion etc...

If you ask me, the fact that some guys in different buildings dispute which ten commandments are actually the right ones, is already quite telling. Especially since it is different combinations of the same words :-). I personally have my own mix of beliefs, concepts and ideas. From what I known of c...
by Steven F
Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:44 pm
Forum: If It Doesn't Fit Anywhere Else
Topic: Questions, Questions! Got LOTS of them (at least 12!)
Replies: 60
Views: 16896

Re: Questions, Questions! Got LOTS of them (at least 12!)

You really think I still want to have a conversation with you after your previous two posts?
by Steven F
Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:38 pm
Forum: If It Doesn't Fit Anywhere Else
Topic: Questions, Questions! Got LOTS of them (at least 12!)
Replies: 60
Views: 16896

Re: Questions, Questions! Got LOTS of them (at least 12!)

My friend, if you have knowledge of criminal activity going on - in AA or elsewhere - I'm sure everyone will support you in bringing that out. Let's just make a distinction between a criminal act and AA as an organisation, ok? If that group covered stuff up, then that could be criminal act also. But...
by Steven F
Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:22 pm
Forum: If It Doesn't Fit Anywhere Else
Topic: Today I'm grateful for...
Replies: 166
Views: 59775

Re: Today I'm grateful for...

Taking time to write answers I don't think will really matter to the one who asked the question, and after it all, still feeling remarkably good about it.
by Steven F
Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:20 pm
Forum: If It Doesn't Fit Anywhere Else
Topic: Questions, Questions! Got LOTS of them (at least 12!)
Replies: 60
Views: 16896

Re: Questions, Questions! Got LOTS of them (at least 12!)

istj04 wrote:Is drinking a requirement to be here? I am well aware that it IS in order to attend AA meetings (in order to meet the "desire to stop" criteria and all!).
I'm sorry - had you read the answers provided above before you posted this? Is this an extension to your question nr. 5 or just a quip?