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by Wiganman
Mon May 27, 2019 2:28 pm
Forum: The 12 Steps
Topic: Step 12 - Keep it Simple
Replies: 6
Views: 2717

Step 12 - Keep it Simple

Step 12 comes in Three parts: 1. "Having had a spiritual awakening as a result of these steps …." Remember a Spiritual Awakening is defined as "personality change sufficient to bring about recovery from alcoholism" Have I changed as a result of the previous 11 steps? Easy way for me to find out is t...
by Wiganman
Sun May 26, 2019 1:07 am
Forum: The 12 Steps
Topic: Step 11 Keep it Simple
Replies: 2
Views: 853

Step 11 Keep it Simple

In Step 2 we said we were willing to believe in a power greater then in step 3 we made a decision to turn our lives over to this power. Step 11 is when we use that willingness and put that decision into action. Now we are living one day at a time in the last three steps to allow us to live a sober l...
by Wiganman
Mon May 20, 2019 1:24 pm
Forum: The 12 Steps
Topic: Step 10 - Keep it Simple
Replies: 0
Views: 652

Step 10 - Keep it Simple

"Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it" I see the final three steps as my reward for having done the first 9. As a brief reminder, I have ascertained my problem (step 1), found the solution (step 2), asked for outside help (step 3), analyzed my character de...
by Wiganman
Sat May 18, 2019 1:29 am
Forum: The 12 Steps
Topic: Steps 8 & 9 Keep it Simple
Replies: 4
Views: 700

Steps 8 & 9 Keep it Simple

Why do we need to do Steps 8 and 9? I have analyzed my behavior in step4, discussed it with my sponsor in step 5 and started the process of modifying my behavior in steps 6 & 7. Human nature makes it difficult for us to approach other people and make amends so why not just be satisfied with the fact...
by Wiganman
Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:35 pm
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Is liquor 'only a symptom'?
Replies: 19
Views: 3540

Re: Is liquor 'only a symptom'?

Excellent topic something which I didn't quite understand and debated when I first started to look at the steps. The root cause of my condition is my selfish, self-confidence driven by fear and resentments. These are the things that will take me back to a drink and then trigger the allergy and resta...
by Wiganman
Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:58 am
Forum: For the Newcomer
Topic: Can’t find a new sponsor
Replies: 9
Views: 1769

Re: Can’t find a new sponsor

Thanks for your post. I can only relate to my own experience and pass this on. I have only had one sponsor and my attitude was to just do whatever he suggested. I respected him because he had very good sobriety and always shared very passionately and in an informed way on the 12 steps. I wanted the ...
by Wiganman
Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:30 am
Forum: Discussions
Topic: Alcohol in foods and other products
Replies: 21
Views: 3616

Re: Alcohol in foods and other products

This is an interesting topic and it all comes down to personal choice. For what its worth I don't think eating food that has alcohol in should affect anyone's sobriety date. I personally don't eat sweet things with added alcohol (like cakes) because I don't like the taste. Would I eat lamb cooked in...
by Wiganman
Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:55 pm
Forum: The 12 Steps
Topic: Steps 6 and 7 - keeping it simple
Replies: 1
Views: 676

Steps 6 and 7 - keeping it simple

In steps 4 and 5 we have identified some patterns in our behavior that have caused us problems in the past. We refer to these as character defects. We are looking for a personality change to recover from alcoholism so we now know what we need to change. Steps 6 and 7 are the start of that process. W...
by Wiganman
Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:14 pm
Forum: The 12 Steps
Topic: Step 4 - Keep it Simple
Replies: 4
Views: 1017

Re: Step 4 - Keep it Simple

when people speak of having many years of sobriety and ‘needing’ meetings to maintain it, I believe it can scare folks off. I have since come to understand that some people need meetings to maintain that fit spiritual condition, and not just as a source of enjoyment, and passing on what we have lea...
by Wiganman
Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:54 pm
Forum: The 12 Steps
Topic: Step 5 - Keep it simple
Replies: 1
Views: 693

Step 5 - Keep it simple

Step 5 reads; Admitted to God, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs. Step 5 is the step where we share the information written in our step 4 with another person (usually our sponsor). This can bring about more fear because while we had fears about step 4 that was ju...
by Wiganman
Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:34 am
Forum: The 12 Steps
Topic: Step 4 - Keep it Simple
Replies: 4
Views: 1017

Step 4 - Keep it Simple

When I first started to look at the steps I would look at step 4 with trepidation. That involves looking at myself and who in their right mind would want to do that. Step 4 reads; Made a Searching and Fearless Moral Inventory of ourselves. Why do we need to do that? What has this step got to do with...
by Wiganman
Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:02 am
Forum: The 12 Steps
Topic: Step 2 Keeping it Simple
Replies: 6
Views: 1450

Re: Step 2 Keeping it Simple

At no stage am I required to change my thinking; I just take the actions and the changes in my thinking happen - all by itself - without any effort. It's a bit like getting fit. I don't make myself fit, I just take a series of actions (like run or lift weights) and fitness happens, all by itself. I...
by Wiganman
Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:59 am
Forum: The 12 Steps
Topic: Step 2 Keeping it Simple
Replies: 6
Views: 1450

Re: Step 2 Keeping it Simple

If the steps were simple, there would not be any need for guidance as they would be so simple to understand. I, on the other hand, do not view AA as a simple program. In my opinion the steps can be as simple or as complicated as we want to make them. Sure, we can study, philosophize, intellectualiz...
by Wiganman
Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:02 pm
Forum: The 12 Steps
Topic: Step 3 Keep it Simple
Replies: 1
Views: 1225

Step 3 Keep it Simple

Step Three: Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of god as we understood him. The dreaded God word. The one we looked at and decided this must be a religious cult. Don’t let this put you off. God is just the Higher Power that you may or may not have defined in step 2. If y...
by Wiganman
Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:58 am
Forum: The 12 Steps
Topic: Step 2 Keeping it Simple
Replies: 6
Views: 1450

Step 2 Keeping it Simple

Step Two...keeping is simple. Step Two: Came to believe that a power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity. Step one is our problem and step two is our solution. Alcohol was a power greater than us we are now looking to change that power for something else. Some people look at this step ...